Jeff was joined by former Representative Jason Grenn. Grenn was elected to represent West Anchorage in 2016 as in Independent. He was defeated by a Republican in 2018 in a weird three-way race. He was recently in Juneau for his new job with Unite America. They discuss his new job, his election loss last year, his time in the Legislature, the ethics bill he got passed while in the Legislature, his 2016 campaign, and some issues currently facing Alaska.