Jeff was joined by Dr. Jermoe List. Dr. List is an Ear, Nose, and Throat doctor practicing in Anchorage. He studied dentistry in the Soviet Union. He later studied medicine in the United States, where became an ENT. They discuss his work as an ENT, some of the conditions he deals with, and some cutting edge treatments for epilepsy. He also talks about some groups he is affiliated with. One is Faces Foundation, that does volunteer work in Peru. The other is Anchorage Project Access, that provides medical care to people without health insurance.