Jeff was joined by John Sturgeon. They discuss his well known case that has gone all the way to the U.S. Supreme Court. Sturgeon was told by federal park rangers in 2007 that he was not allowed to use his hovercraft on a navigable waterway through a national park. After an extensive process of trying to challenge that, he eventually took the case to court. Sturgeon has become something of an icon in Alaska for challenging the federal government on land use.